Breakaway states create more conflict

Oh dear.

Hear russian tanks are already rolling.

Breakaway states create more conflict

These is exactly what is going to happen in Mindanao whrn the ancestral domAIN IS ESTABLISH. wILL BE A FIGHT AMONG THE PILIPINOS.

buying and using allied states as an added power.

US and EU should keep their hands off of Russia’s ex states. Stop surrounding Russia with your newly bought allies. Give people some space,man,you’re stepping on Russia’s territories and toes. Russia is exercising a lot of restraint. Stop causing conflicts around the world with your outdated method of buying and surrounding yourselves with allies against your perceived enemies,the communist countriesan,which are now more peaceful than these so called democratic countries.

Sneek attack.

Sneaky move. Useing Oylimpics as cover to try take over sovereighn state of Georgia. Shows how far Putin will go to bring back communism. Knew something was going down. Thought problems were gonna be in china. Nice move. Second guessed everyone.

weak response yeilds chaos

russia should go ahead and kill the leaders in georgia , end of conflict .

Some restraint...
:rolleyes:
Fighting spreads across Georgia
8 Aug.`08 - Cities across Georgia being bombed early Saturday; Russian forces moved Friday into breakaway Georgia region of South Ossetia; Georgia sent troops into South Ossetia on Thursday to clamp down on separatists

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Bombs rocked Tbilisi early Saturday morning as the fight between Georgia and Russia over a breakaway region intensified and moved into the Georgian capital. Government buildings, including the Parliament, were evacuated when the bombs fell. Heavy casualties have reported on both sides since Russian forces moved Friday into South Ossetia, a pro-Russian autonomous region of Georgia. Russian bombers were targeting Georgia’s economic infrastructure, National Security Council secretary Alexander Lomaia said, including the country’s largest Black Sea port, Poti, and the main road connecting the southern part of Georgia with the east and the airport. Georgian television reported that the port had been destroyed.

Georgia, a former Soviet state, sent troops into South Ossetia on Thursday, aiming to crack down on the separatists, who want independence or unification with North Ossetia, which is in Russia. Russia responded Friday, sending troops into the Georgian province where it had peacekeepers stationed. “I saw bodies lying on the streets, around ruined buildings, in cars," Lyudmila Ostayeva, a resident of the South Ossetia capital, Tskhinvali, told The Associated Press on Friday. “It’s impossible to count them now. There is hardly a single building left undamaged," she said after fleeing to a village near the Russian border, AP reported.

“They are killing civilians, women and children, with heavy artillery and rockets," Sarmat Laliyev, 28, told AP. One U.S. State Department official called the conflict a “very dangerous situation” and said diplomatic moves are afoot around the globe to stop it. Georgia — on the Black Sea coast between Russia and Turkey — appealed for diplomatic intervention. Georgia asked the United States for planes to bring back its 2,000 troops serving as part of the U.S.-led coalition in Iraq, a U.S. official said. “All day today, they’ve been bombing Georgia from numerous warplanes and specifically targeting [the:
civilian population, and we have scores of wounded and dead among [the] civilian population all around the country," Georgia’s president, Mikhail Saakashvili, said Friday. “This is the worst nightmare one can encounter."

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Bush meets Putin over Georgia
August 8, 2008 — International organizations call for end to fighting in breakaway Georgia region; Fighting in South Ossetia escalated Friday; Russian tanks moved to the region; President Bush: The United States supports Georgia’s territorial integrity; Georgia, formerly part of the Soviet Union, now has ambitions of joining NATO

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The U.S., European Union and international security organizations Friday called for an end to fighting between Georgia and militant separatists that has dragged in Russian forces. President George Bush and Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin discussed the conflict in Georgia, the White House confirmed. Both men were attending the opening of the Summer Olympics in the Chinese capital and spoke during a luncheon hosted by Chinese President Hu Jintao. White House spokesman Tony Fratto did not provide any additional details.

But Putin, according to his spokesman, said: “There are lots of volunteers being gathered in the region, and it’s very hard to withhold them from taking part. A real war is going on." White House spokeswoman Dana Perino said: “I want to reiterate on [President Bush’s:
behalf that the United States supports Georgia’s territorial integrity and we call for an immediate cease fire. “We urge all parties, Georgians, South Ossetians and Russians to de-escalate the tension and avoid conflict. We are working on mediation efforts to secure a cease fire and we are urging the parties to restart their dialogue."

The U.S. military was also reviewing plans for the possible evacuation of the more than 2,000 of its citizens in the Republic of Georgia, two military officials said Friday. Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told his counterparts in the United States and Germany and the European Union’s foreign policy chief that Georgia was the aggressor and should immediately withdraw its troops from South Ossetia.

The EU and the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) are sending envoys to Georgia to secure a cease-fire, but a senior U.S. State Department official said the United States would only send a representative after a cease-fire is in place. The European Union said it was working with other parties “towards a ceasefire in order to prevent further escalation of this conflict." EU spokeswoman Christina Gallach told CNN: “We think it is not acceptable to see these scenes of bloodshed and destruction."

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Bush meets Putin over Georgia
August 8, 2008 — International organizations call for end to fighting in breakaway Georgia region; Fighting in South Ossetia escalated Friday; Russian tanks moved to the region; President Bush: The United States supports Georgia’s territorial integrity; Georgia, formerly part of the Soviet Union, now has ambitions of joining NATO [/QUOTE]

A now strong russia is not runningt
from the US,NATO or georgia!

Extract :geopolitical experts note that on the surface level, the Russians are backing the separatists of S. Ossetia and neighboring Abkhazia as payback for the strengthening of American influence in tiny Georgia and its 4.5 million inhabitants. However, more immediately, the conflict has been sparked by the race for control over the pipelines carrying oil and gas out of the Caspian region.

The Russians may just bear with the pro-US Georgian president Mikhail Saakashvili’s ambition to bring his country into NATO. But they draw a heavy line against his plans and those of Western oil companies, including Israeli firms, to route the oil routes from Azerbaijan and the gas lines from Turkmenistan, which transit Georgia, through Turkey instead of hooking them up to Russian pipelines.

Saakashvili need only back away from this plan for Moscow to ditch the two provinces’ revolt against Tbilisi. As long as he sticks to his guns, South Ossetia and Abkhazia will wage separatist wars.

DEBKAfile discloses Israel’s interest in the conflict from its exclusive military sources:

Jerusalem owns a strong interest in Caspian oil and gas pipelines reach the Turkish terminal port of Ceyhan, rather than the Russian network. Intense negotiations are afoot between Israel Turkey, Georgia, Turkmenistan and Azarbaijan for pipelines to reach Turkey and thence to Israel’s oil terminal at Ashkelon and on to its Red Sea port of Eilat. From there, supertankers can carry the gas and oil to the Far East through the Indian Ocean.

Aware of Moscow’s sensitivity on the oil question, Israel offered Russia a stake in the project but was rejected.

Last year, the Georgian president commissioned from private Israeli security firms several hundred military advisers, estimated at up to 1,000, to train the Georgian armed forces in commando, air, sea, armored and artillery combat tactics. They also offer instruction on military intelligence and security for the central regime. Tbilisi also purchased weapons, intelligence and electronic warfare systems from Israel.

These advisers were undoubtedly deeply involved in the Georgian army’s preparations to conquer the South Ossetian capital Friday.

In recent weeks, Moscow has repeatedly demanded that Jerusalem halt its military assistance to Georgia, finally threatening a crisis in bilateral relations. Israel responded by saying that the only assistance rendered Tbilisi was “defensive.”

This has not gone down well in the Kremlin. Therefore, as the military crisis intensifies in South Ossetia, Moscow may be expected to punish Israel for its intervention.

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